Capitalism, Profitability & Rule Sets

Earlier tonight I ended up talking with my mom about creative capitalism.

She was talking about how she heard that drug companies stopped researching a HIV treatment because it wasn’t profitable. And she directed this complaint somewhat antagonistically towards the abstract, corporate capitalistic establishment. She lamented the fact that Viagra is extremely profitable yet provides little social benefit, while a drug to treat HIV for people in sub-Saharan Africa would have enormous social benefit, but the research was ditched because it wasn’t profitable due to the fact that Africa has no money and thus no market. I tried to tell my mom that capitalism is not to blame here.  Based on my limited knowledge of drug development, developing a drug is an incredibly risky venture. Millions of dollars can be spent developing a drug only to find out it is a failure. And this happens frequently. When drug companies do find an effective drug they need to market the hell out of it to make up for the millions of dollars spent on failed drugs.

If this HIV treatment my mom heard about was even just a little bit profitable then there would be a market for developing it. But there isn’t  a market because the drug doesn’t have enough upside to even render it an investment that could be even slightly profitable much less have the potential for extreme profitability that the drug companies desire. There’s no market for something with negative profitability. But, I don’t think the conversation should end there.

If the market doesn’t allow research on a drug that is highly beneficial to society like HIV treatment then what that indicates is the the rule sets of the market need to be changed. For a free market to work, value needs to be lined up with profitability. And don’t give me any crap about how the market will not be free anymore. Earlier today I read a paragraph where Thomas Friedman impressively rebuts this point:

Is it a good idea to meddle so extensively with the free market for energy?
[Laughing.] Oh, yeah, a totally free market dominated globally by the world’s biggest cartel, dominated domestically by fossil-fuel companies who have written all the rules in Congress—pages’ worth of depletion allowances and tax shenanigans that these guys have written in to give themselves advantages. We wouldn’t want to upset that free market, would we? There is no such thing as a free market, no more than there is a farm or a garden that grows without fertilizer, without proper plowing, without intelligence brought into it. Markets are shaped by rules, incentives and disincentives, and right now our market is shaped by the dirty fuel system.

One way to change the rule sets in order to make the research of HIV treatments a more profitable venture is to offer government subsidies. My knowledge of economics is limited so I don’t know of many other ways to make this research economically viable but I’m sure solutions are out there. The main concept I want to point out in this post and reiterate again is that if a system doesn’t allow for something that makes complete sense, such as putting money towards finding HIV treatments,  there’s a good chance then that the system’s rule sets are out of whack.

The concept of rule sets is very powerful and one I’ve recently added to my conceptual vocabulary. This concept has been covered extensively by Thomas Barnett in the Pentagon’s New Map, the book I’m currently reading. Which by the way is an amazing book. I’ll be writing more about this great book at some point in the future.

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  • BusinessBoy

    Max, I like your enthusiasm, but that article about HIV research is obviously bullshit. That of course is not the point of your post, it is to introduce your term ‘rule sets’, I get it.

    The article I’m sure wasn’t a total fabrication, but considering the millions of dollars spent on HIV treatment every year, it doesn’t seem logical. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure that there was some research that was cancelled, but is it really a capitalist conspiracy to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, thats a little paranoid don’t you think? The other idea, that this is emblematic of the failures of capitalism requires even more improbable assumptions than the conspiracy version.

    Also that quote by Thomas Friedman, that guy sounds like a total pompous ass. For one, sarcasm is not very helpful when making a logical appeal. Secondly, there has never been a totally “free” market, but that does not negate the effects of free market forces. Intervention in the market through subsidies, rent ceilings, taxes and quotas all can be effective tools to affect the market, but they ALWAYS have some sort of adverse affect accompanying them. Not to say they’re all bad, or on average bad, just saying there is always an unintended consequence in addition to the desired effect.

    Are you really that excited about ‘rule sets’, it seems that you now just have discovered a term for something that you’ve already known, furthermore it is totally intuitive and something that most people are already aware of even if they don’t know your term for it. So whats the big deal? Whats so powerful about it, it is just a word.

  • BusinessBoy

    Max, I like your enthusiasm, but that article about HIV research is obviously bullshit. That of course is not the point of your post, it is to introduce your term ‘rule sets’, I get it.

    The article I’m sure wasn’t a total fabrication, but considering the millions of dollars spent on HIV treatment every year, it doesn’t seem logical. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure that there was some research that was cancelled, but is it really a capitalist conspiracy to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, thats a little paranoid don’t you think? The other idea, that this is emblematic of the failures of capitalism requires even more improbable assumptions than the conspiracy version.

    Also that quote by Thomas Friedman, that guy sounds like a total pompous ass. For one, sarcasm is not very helpful when making a logical appeal. Secondly, there has never been a totally “free” market, but that does not negate the effects of free market forces. Intervention in the market through subsidies, rent ceilings, taxes and quotas all can be effective tools to affect the market, but they ALWAYS have some sort of adverse affect accompanying them. Not to say they’re all bad, or on average bad, just saying there is always an unintended consequence in addition to the desired effect.

    Are you really that excited about ‘rule sets’, it seems that you now just have discovered a term for something that you’ve already known, furthermore it is totally intuitive and something that most people are already aware of even if they don’t know your term for it. So whats the big deal? Whats so powerful about it, it is just a word.

  • ptbarnum

    So if this proves the failure of capitalism, what does the fact that you are willing to get your parents to spend $1390 to go to a conference about emerging technology say? Ha, what a crock. You ever heard the saying “there’s a sucker born every minute”? A real case of senioritis would involve going out and experiencing life, stop trying so hard, enjoy your life, be yourself.

  • ptbarnum

    So if this proves the failure of capitalism, what does the fact that you are willing to get your parents to spend $1390 to go to a conference about emerging technology say? Ha, what a crock. You ever heard the saying “there’s a sucker born every minute”? A real case of senioritis would involve going out and experiencing life, stop trying so hard, enjoy your life, be yourself.

  • max

    For your information PT, it’s only $450 and I’m paying most of it. And ETech is going to be an amazing learning experience, filled with many great speeches, sessions and interesting people to meet.

    You are criticizing me for being proactive about something I’m passionate about. What makes you think I’m neither enjoying or being myself?
    I’m curious, what is experiencing life to you? Since you are so critical I”m interested to know what you advise?

  • max

    For your information PT, it’s only $450 and I’m paying most of it. And ETech is going to be an amazing learning experience, filled with many great speeches, sessions and interesting people to meet.

    You are criticizing me for being proactive about something I’m passionate about. What makes you think I’m neither enjoying or being myself?
    I’m curious, what is experiencing life to you? Since you are so critical I”m interested to know what you advise?

  • ptbarnum

    Thats true you are being proactive as for as self-education is concerned. Most people who say they educate themselves outside of school are talking about reading espn.com, so I do appreciate that you are doing something scholarly in your free time. Honestly though, you have plenty of time to do that kind of stuff, and your time to be a kid is running short.

  • ptbarnum

    Thats true you are being proactive as for as self-education is concerned. Most people who say they educate themselves outside of school are talking about reading espn.com, so I do appreciate that you are doing something scholarly in your free time. Honestly though, you have plenty of time to do that kind of stuff, and your time to be a kid is running short.

  • max

    Yes, for better or worse, much of my life has evolved in reverse order. But I’m doing what’s best for me long term. I’m willing to endure short term pain for long term gain. I have thought a lot about the seriousness I have developed in my young adulthood, and it’s fair to say I have mixed emotions about my choices. But I do know I’m doing what’s best for me now, given the hand I’ve been dealt. The things to enjoy about childhood though, I don’t think will ever go away. The age yes, but the spirit needn’t die.

  • max

    Yes, for better or worse, much of my life has evolved in reverse order. But I’m doing what’s best for me long term. I’m willing to endure short term pain for long term gain. I have thought a lot about the seriousness I have developed in my young adulthood, and it’s fair to say I have mixed emotions about my choices. But I do know I’m doing what’s best for me now, given the hand I’ve been dealt. The things to enjoy about childhood though, I don’t think will ever go away. The age yes, but the spirit needn’t die.